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Post by Seira on Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:53 am

As far as I know, this light novel has only been adapted into a manga and an anime so far, but I have not had the time nor effort put into checking out the manga. Dare I say I'm a little disappointing in myself for not hearing about it before the anime was announced, especially because of the original author. That said, I think it is very clear why I currently want to talk about the anime only, or at least, I'd be okay with Viserys-san talking about any possible differences in between versions, but I think that since we're all watching the anime here yeah? We can just talk about what has so far happened in it. Very engaging. I'll just jump straight into the latest episode.

I really thought those exact words at least a minute before they were said in the episode.

She really went too far that time. Possibly too much so for her to ever be redeemed in my eyes, but we'll see.

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I also don't think Mitsuo would ever be permanently hating Koko. Sure she really did bother him many times and she'll probably continue to do so, but she is special in another way, as they did seem to have had a lot of fun together. I just don't really see them actually ending up together, especially after this. More like I see that the more interactions Koko has with Banri, the more likely that they will end up together instead. Although, there is that thing at the end. They even hinted earlier in the episode that he knew Linda before.

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Post by Viserys on Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:40 pm

Well...let's see. I have watched up to episode 4 of Golden Time, so I am caught up with the current events so to speak.

Banri's fascination with Koko is really peculiar. Sometimes I wonder if he is going after her based on her looks alone, which might be the case. But hey, in the world of manga and anime everyone is good-looking (baring a few exceptions).  

Spoilers up to episode 4:

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Back to the discussion. Sure Koko has her "hidden" gentle and sweet side, but she is also a total bitch at times, no offense. Yeah, loving someone for who they are is all well and dandy, but I personally wouldn't want to be with someone with such a dramatic on/off button, if you get my drift. Yes, she's quite the looker but...the older you get the more you find out that personality matters way more in the long run. I think I already drilled the point home on why Mitsuo's rejection of Koko is the prime example of why there are more than looks to a woman.

Speaking of Kaga Koko, her name. I totally mix up her first and last name all the time. Must be the fact that they are both 4 letters and yeah...

Mitsuo handled the "break-up" scene way more calmly than I thought he would. I know that had to differ from the manga slightly.

Nice cameo by NANA, liked that tidbit. Along the same lines, a NANA sequel would be awesome.

For those who are reading the manga, the translations sort of end around this point, so a large portion of the future plot is new material (atleast for those that didn't read the raws). I'm quite looking forward to the episodes ahead.  

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Re: Golden Time Latest Episode Discussion (Spoilers)

Post by Seira on Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:31 am

Viserys wrote:Banri's fascination with Koko is really peculiar. Sometimes I wonder if he is going after her based on her looks alone, which might be the case.
It does seem that way sometimes, doesn't it? I wouldn't be surprised if that isn't the case in the long run though, they are having much nicer conversations than Koko and Mitsuo. But really, he does know what she is like when Mitsuo is around too so ah, that idea really seems to have more reason about now, imo.

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Speaking of Kaga Koko, her name. I totally mix up her first and last name all the time. Must be the fact that they are both 4 letters and yeah...
That is pretty confusing. I know I once messed up and typed Jaz instead of Jax for a friend's nickname somewhere else, although those two letters are right next to each other on the keyboard. It wasn't exactly just a typo, I think I did slightly think of the wrong letter and mixed something up. Incidentally, that got him to change his username once.

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Mitsuo handled the "break-up" scene way more calmly than I thought he would. I know that had to differ from the manga slightly.
I was surprised too. Also think he looks a tad like an obviously smarter Hosaka. Just a bit.

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For those who are reading the manga, the translations sort of end around this point, so a large portion of the future plot is new material (atleast for those that didn't read the raws). I'm quite looking forward to the episodes ahead.
Interesting.

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Post by Seira on Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:36 pm

Episode 5:
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I'd have preferred it if it didn't make his memories out to be some sort of ghost, but what can you do.

Really hilarious in two parts especially:
1. Koko's previous life thing. It had a The Scream Mitsuo.
2. Oh I forget, but I know it wasn't what I already mentioned.

I do want to see Banri getting his memories back, if only so that we can know it all. I mean, I know he mentioned not caring if he did get them back, but there are some things, especially now that he's figured some of them out, that he's looking just too curious about.

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Post by Viserys on Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:46 am

My thoughts after ep 5


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Touching scene between Linda and Banri. Totally new scene that I did not see in the translated manga. It was really cute.

What is strange is Linda's personality and how she is covering up any acquaintance or relationship they had in the past. It seems she was trying to reach out to him in her own way initially but still. Maybe she just gave up after sometime. Hmm..

This story does remind me of Rumbling Hearts. Similar amnesia story with an accident. I would like to draw a greater connection between both shows but it would prob be spoilerific.



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Post by Seira on Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:06 am

Episiode 6... I... I just...
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called it (well, was pretty sure Koko would confess first) I was crying a bit at the beginning. Actually, I watched episode 5 of Galilei Donna right before it and had what I would say is a sadder ending to it than the beginning of this, so that must clearly have something to do with it, but seeing my man Banri cry like that, I don't really know why I even.

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Post by Viserys on Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:52 pm

Seira Otoshiro wrote:Episiode 6... I... I just...
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called it (well, was pretty sure Koko would confess first) I was crying a bit at the beginning. Actually, I watched episode 5 of Galilei Donna right before it and had what I would say is a sadder ending to it than the beginning of this, so that must clearly have something to do with it, but seeing my man Banri cry like that, I don't really know why I even.
Episode 6 thoughts.


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So Banri actually was crying during these events. Hmm I thought he was just overly emotional (for good reason ofcourse). Must have been in the bathroom stall when he ran away from Linda.

So yes...Banri is in a complicated situation. His ex-girlfriend effectively "shunning" him even if she just wanted to give him space to regain his memories on his own. It's hard to say...if what she did was right or wrong. I have not personally been in a situation when I had to confront a friend/loved one/relative that had such a severe case on amnesia and couldn't remember me.

As we saw in a flashback Linda did meet Banri after the accident, and it seemed like she wanted to come out and "refresh" his memory so to speak, but was holding back.

It's really hard to say where the "relationship" between Linda and Banri will go from here. Again...a situation similar to Rumbling Hearts if you have seen that anime. I really have no idea what Linda/Banri would have done if one or the other had begged to restart the relationship at the point, the entire event just seemed hard on Banri and he came to hate Linda as a result.

Since Linda apparently said "yes" to Banri confession pre-accident, she obviously did want a relationship with him. Of course, that's in the past now so no idea what Linda personally wants at the moment. Though it seems that because of Linda's actions (or lack thereof) Banri wants nothing to do with her right now.

What seems obvious is that, Banri wants to be with Koko at this moment in time, and she wants to be with him. That are a lot of unanswered questions at this point. I feel that Koko seems like "volatile material" because of all of the feelings she once had for Mitsuo and her "emotional baggage" in general. She is really a high-maintenance woman, and similar to real life, they may be absolutely beautiful, but they also have a lot of needs and wants from their man.

Due to the next-episode preview spoilers, it seems that Banri and Koko will be getting together. Not sure how things will go from here, what Linda will do, or how Banri and Koko's relationship will progress...all we can do is watch.




It's been a good series thus far, so I can't wait to see what happens in the coming episodes. I know this probably came out longer than I wanted.

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Post by Seira on Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:07 pm

Episode 7 thoughts:
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Is it just me, or did Banri not actually say anything on the matter of dating until "I'm just glad we're dating"? I'd have liked to have actually heard him saying he was okay with it when Koko mentioned it first, but well... okay.

I hope Mitsuo is okay. =o
Now this, this came out shorter than I had wanted.

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Post by Viserys on Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:45 pm

So behind lol....I need to get to watching episode 6 and 7 then I'll post my thoughts. Bear with me Very Happy 

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Post by Viserys on Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:09 pm

Episode 7-8 Spoilers

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Okay...Banri and Koko are together. I didn't see Koko confessing her love for him so soon but it happened. Speaking of Koko, she is quite the interesting character. It's hard to gauge at this point in time how "strong" their relationship is. From the looks of things however, it seems that Koko actually loves Banri more than he loves her. That is just the vibe I am getting. Banri could very well be conflicted and in turmoil because of his past feelings for Linda.

Now Koko as a girlfriend. I swear it seems she is drunk at times. Either that or caught up in her own little world. She is certainly, passionate (although they have yet to kiss) and very much touchy-feely. Overly dramatic in how she goes about things...but nothing inherently wrong with that. Definitely clingy, but one could argue if that is a bad thing or not. If two people are truly in love, one would expect them to be clingy in a sense. Most people need their space, however, and are not ready to give 100% to their lover. By 100% I mean, meeting with them during whatever downtime you have from work/school, calling/texting constantly, and not being afraid of PDA-activities. Since there is bound to be a compatibility issue (one person not loving the other as much for instance) someone in the relationship is bound to go overboard.

Koko has her positives and often blatant negatives, much like any person I suppose. Same with Banri and Linda. Could I see myself with someone like Koko? Probably not, she is a demanding woman after all. Not to mention her violent side is a little too much, so much that I feel she would launch a temper tantrum when she doesn't get her way. She does have some positives, (yes besides looks...Very Happy ) I am quite fond of how committed she is as a lover. Now I know its still early in her relationship with Banri but...so far she hasn't wavered. It's certain that she is the type of woman to embarrass you in public, though.

Now Linda is much more calm personality wise then Koko. The later seems high strung on too much caffeine (or something else) most of the time. I know that isn't saying much in terms of a comparison, but the two are polar opposites in a lot of ways.

The scene at the end of episode 7 with Banri and Linda was quite heartfelt, surely I was not alone in getting teary eyed for that one. It is early in Linda's character development I feel, so its hard to get an accurate reading on her. I am still pondering how things will go down, in the inevitable showdown between Linda and Koko over Banri. Really its anyone's guess what will happen.

One could argue that Linda doesn't deserve Banri because she missed her chance. Yeah, there is that. It still makes me question her actions on why she chose to watch him from afar, distancing herself from him after the accident. Essentially, she could be viewed as the polar opposite of Koko in that she gives people space. Probably too much of it, in that she appears to totally neglect Banri (without him knowing) and attempt to proceed in her life without him. She openly denies her feelings for him, not only in the flashback but in the closing moments of episode 8 as well. Surely she knows Banri is with Koko, she just hasn't brought up their relationship or pressed the issue. As such, she is giving him the space he needs to make his decision.

Will Banri and Koko's relationship last? Who am I rooting for? How to answer these questions, hmm. To me anyways, it seems that Koko loves Banri more. Banri is conflicted at the moment between his "ex" (for all intents and purposes) and his current girlfriend, Koko. His past self loves Linda, but does his current self? Probably not, because he forgot the bulk of his memories.

Honestly, I would be happy with either ending. Though if Koko and Banri do break-up, well...certainly wouldn't be pretty.

I feel that Banri and Linda will get caught together, and being how sensitive Koko is, this will spell disaster.  
Seira Otoshiro wrote:Episode 7 thoughts:
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Is it just me, or did Banri not actually say anything on the matter of dating until "I'm just glad we're dating"? I'd have liked to have actually heard him saying he was okay with it when Koko mentioned it first, but well... okay.
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Exactly, he must have been like: "Hey a hot girl said yes! Ofcourse I'll date you!". Well, he certainly seemed shocked by the confession. I agree that it seemed like a halfhearted, maybe last resort acceptance of her confession. Surely he likes her, but he is certainly conflicted by his past feelings for Linda.


We'll just have to see how the plot unfolds. A good story ultimately keeps us guessing at every turn.

In other news, I think the formatting for the forum got messed up somewhere, I just noticed it. Seems off, but I don't know where.

It seems to just be this topic. How strange.
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Post by Viserys on Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:58 pm

Okay, since adding spoiler tags for ever post is too much work, I made some adjustments. You only need a spoiler warning in the topic title. It would be nice to maybe create a new topic for each episode, but the activity isn't too great around here at the moment. For now just put a heading so you can notify readers what episode you are talking about...I will be mentioning episode 9 in this case.

In other news, Golden Time seems to be running 24 episodes, which caught me by surprise. I definitely thought it was a 12 or 13 episode run.

Episode 9:

Let's see...I can hardly remember what happened since it has been several days since I watched it. Right...Koko was doubting Banri's love for her...I think she got "sick" also as a result. Was this the episode where Banri made up with Linda? I think I need to rewatch the episode because my memory is foggy at the moment. (It is best to make these posts right after watching the episode).

All I know is that it would certainly be cruel if Banri ends up leaving Koko for whatever reason. She has had alot of hardship lately, ever since her infatuation with Mitsuo. Surely it was a crush gone wrong, but all the same, after her initial explosion I think she got over things fairly quickly. Which means she may still have some pent up emotions inside. Surely if things go wrong in her current relationship with Banri, I imagine her mental and physical state could quickly spiral out of control.

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Post by Viserys on Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:12 am

Episode 10:


Now I remember the cliffhanger of last episode where Banri's past self sort of took over. Its probably played up for dramatic effect, but his past self seems borderline psychotic, obsessed with seeing Linda and nothing else. Inevitably, I am sure he will reawaken inside him and cause chaos, especially between the current relationship between Koko and Banri.

About the current episode, it definitely did not escalate as much as I thought it would. Koko hard to read as always. We all know she is upset at how things are currently. There is the issue of the photograph that was missing from Banri's room. If Koko did indeed get ahold of that that could potentially spell trouble.

I know there's more I wanted to say regarding the episode but we'll leave it at that for now.

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Post by Viserys on Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:59 pm

Episode 11:



Sure enough Koko had that picture of Banri and Linda together. Well, we all know that she is the clingy type but as I see it, she truly loves Banri and desires to spend every waking moment with him. Banri, although he vocally says that he loves her, has doubts in his mind.

Similar situation as White Album. Koko has her ways, but she seems to be an innocent girl at heart, who just wants to be loved.

The definition of cheating in relationships is often hard to define. I guess this largely depends if you are the "clingy-type" or not. I personally share a similar view as Koko does on this, that there is a very fine line as to what cheating is or isn't in a relationship. If there was any doubt in your mind that you had an interest in someone else, or that you loved someone else, it was probably a bad idea to get into a relationship with another party in the first place. Things happen, however, which is understandable.

Has Banri been "cheating" on Koko with Linda? Not quite, but at the same time, he has not entirely been faithful to Koko. They have had a lot of friendly exchanges, and while deep down Koko has disproved of any exchange between them, she has kept her cool for the most part. Though if things head in Banri x Linda direction, (which things are imo) she won't be able to keep her composure for long. Personally, I feel that Linda "taking" care of Banri when he was "sick" kind of crossed the line. That is something that should be reserved for one's gf/bf (assuming you are in a relationship) only.

Also, it does irk me that Banri lied to Koko, even if it was for a good cause - raising money for their beach trip. Yes, even though it was a "white lie", Koko wanted to spend the day with him. Surely everyone has "lied" to their partner or ex effectively getting out of spending time with them. That right there is definite proof that you don't love them enough.

Coincidentally, he just happens to run into Linda at every turn. Things seem to be heading the Linda x Banri route, as it appears that Koko x Banri are on shaky ground. Only thing we can do is tune in next week.



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